Thursday July 19 2012
Juve – Jovetic or Van Persie?

Juventus have money to spend, but should they make Robin Van Persie or Stevan Jovetic their top player target? Antonio Labbate looks at the pros and cons.

We’ve all been there. The waiter shows you to your table, hands you a menu and, after serving initial drinks, asks if you are ready to order. Decisions, decisions. Welcome to the world of Juventus, a club who have been saving the majority of their transfer funds this summer to sign a ‘top player’ – their main course – which they have spent over a year working up an appetite for.

With Edinson Cavani unlikely to be prised away from Napoli after Aurelio De Laurentiis parted company with PSG recruit Ezequiel Lavezzi, the choice of new forward seems to be down to just two names. Arsenal’s want-away Robin Van Persie and Fiorentina’s ultra-talented Stevan Jovetic. But who would be the wiser swoop?

It is a conundrum which has undoubtedly been chewed over a number of transfer lunches between President Andrea Agnelli, Coach Antonio Conte, director general Beppe Marotta and his right-hand man, Fabio Paratici, this summer. It’s no secret that the Dutch international is very much on the radar of the club after confirmation that he wouldn’t be renewing in London, while Marotta admitted on Tuesday that Jovetic has the profile of player the Bianconeri are looking for.

Cost-wise, the Bianconeri will have to dig deep in one way or another to grab either player. Although Fiorentina’s30m cash valuation of Jovetic is obviously high in today’s economic climate outside of clubs who don’t have Arab or Russian investment, his salary would be much lower than the reported €7m a season that Van Persie – also being tracked by the two Manchester clubs – would require.

Jo-Jo could probably be tempted to accept less than 50 per cent of that, while Arsenal are still looking for over €20m in a fee for their forward despite the fact that his contract will expire next June. Can the Old Lady justify spending such an amount on a player who could be available on a Bosman next summer?

One can also argue that Jovetic, at 22, would be more of a guarantee in terms of a re-sale value. Buy him at €30m today and that price could increase year on year given his potential, but it will be harder for Van Persie to keep his valuation rising the longer he stays in Turin. Zlatan Ibrahimovic, at 30, has just been transferred to Paris Saint-Germain for around €25m – and they aren’t short of cash.

In terms of economics, it seems that Jovetic would be the shrewder investment, but there are tactical considerations to make. Van Persie has the far superior international experience, both for his country and in the Champions League with the Gunners. Jovetic, considering his nationality, age and current club, has only briefly flirted with the competitions that matter – although he’s been playing in the Italian top flight since 2008.

Van Persie, over the past few seasons at least, is also a proven scorer and that is something that Juve were missing last term. Although only Milan netted more goals than them in Serie A, the Bianconeri’s top scorer was Alessandro Matri with just 10 League strikes. Conte spent the last four months of the campaign alternating Matri with Mirko Vucinic, Fabio Quagliarella and Marco Borriello.

On paper, Van Persie would also be pretty much guaranteed a starting shirt in whichever system Conte opts for – whether that be 3-5-2 or 4-3-3. It would be a bit trickier for Jovetic who can play centre-forward, but, as Dejan Savicevic has often underlined, he is better used elsewhere. Acquiring Jovetic would give the former Siena tactician another second striker after the recall of Sebastian Giovinco already this summer.

So who would be the right call – Jovetic or Van Persie? The decision may well rest on how confident La Vecchia Signora are of challenging for the Champions League this season. If they think they have a shot of winning it then Van Persie is the guy to plump for, if they feel that they are still a couple of years away from making a bid then Jo-Jo, as alternatives go, wouldn’t be a bad second choice. Now where’s that waiter?

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Have your say...
Juventus needs Fernando Torres. With the long dipping balls coming from Pirlo and with Giovinco being able to pull the defense Torre wil have all the space he needs to let his legs and run. Except that after his eurocup performanc chelsea will not sell him for cheap although he will be benched in london for most of the season.
on the 25th July, 2012 at 8:59am
Those of us who have been keeping an eye on the German Bundesliga know full well who Lewandowski is & what he can do with a good fast paced side. If Juve want to invest heavily this summer then there is none better than Lewandowski, Forget RVP & JoJo neither one of them is a true CF and as a support striker we have Vucinic, Giovinco & quiet a few more to play in that role. As for Falcao he is 26 while Lewandowski is only 23, no need to go any further!!!
on the 21st July, 2012 at 1:59pm
Although jojo is the closest to a new del piero, Juve now have seba...

Van persie's price is too inflated for a player who has a bad injury record, low resale value and with one year left on his contract...(vidal was bought for 10.5m because he had one year left on his contract)

If sufficient money is available then I would go to Falcao- A proven goal scorer in europe- and has much to offer or else then we have to get jojo and rely on the italians quag and matri for the 1st striker role.
on the 21st July, 2012 at 10:17am
Why not Lewandowski? Young, cheap (20-25m euros should be enough) and scored 20-30 goals last season. Plus he's mobile, a good finisher and can head.
Jojo isnt a CF and RVP is not worth the 30m Arsenal want given his injuries, age, contract and inconsistency (1 good season does not warrant 30m for a 28 yo).
on the 21st July, 2012 at 4:02am
If Juve want an investment for the future than Jovetic all the way. I'm not confident that RVP can be consistent after his poor Euro form. If Juve want to compete then they need a striker whose as lethal in the air as he is on the ground, someone strong, intelligent and demonstrates brilliant technique, someone like Huntelaar. You don't need speed to be a good striker (Trezeguet) you just need to out the ball in the back of the net. Huntelaar did 38 times in 37 apps last season. Nuff said.
on the 20th July, 2012 at 4:16pm
Juve, you've got the money now generated from your own stadium & return to Champions League - spend the £30m Arsenal are asking for !! He's a 20 + goal a season striker, who will both aid in retaining the Serie A title next season & fire Juve on their return to Champions League victory !!! Can't see Arsenal selling to either Manchester rivals, or allowing him to leave for nothing, so Juve need to seize their opportunity before an alternative - such as Barca or Real madrid enter the race for him.
on the 20th July, 2012 at 2:33pm
Jovetic isnt injury prone just because he has had one bad injury. But he or Van Persie isnt the right choice. Van Persie is overated one good season followed by a poor euro's Arsenal have already got a better replacemet in Giroud, Juve need Cavani....but they will most likly get rid of Matri and sign Gilardino hahahahha
on the 20th July, 2012 at 1:21pm
Buy RVP, trade Jovetic with Quaqriella and keep others in Juve.. LOL!! CLASSIC!! Im sure viola will go for that... to swap Quagriella for Jovetic. Pathetic
on the 20th July, 2012 at 11:19am
Buy RVP, trade Jovetic with Quaqriella and keep others in Juve.. Juve need strikers as they already release ADP and Borriello..
on the 20th July, 2012 at 10:49am
I think a fact a lot of people missed out on last year that when facing teams who "park the bus" Juve weren't creating a lot of clear chances and that was a bigger problem than the quality of our forwards. Yes Juve lack a poacher but to be honest there don't seem to be many quality poachers in today's game. Besides even good poachers like Inzaghi miss chances so to score they need to be given a lot of service. Trez was perhaps the only exception. With Giovinco I think Matri would score more.
on the 20th July, 2012 at 10:48am
if not simply choosing from these two i would get neither and prob go for a bit of a gamble and get gaston ramirez and lewondowski both combined would prob be the same amount as one of these players and we get a poacher and another young, creative attacking midfielder.
on the 20th July, 2012 at 10:39am
they are both very different players but at the end of they day seeing as they cost more or less the same id rather go for jovetic he is 22 has a bit more skills than just scoring and will have a much smaller annual fee.
on the 20th July, 2012 at 10:25am
Quag was on fire for Juve when he first arrived, his injury really hurt Juve! Quagmire still has the potential to be a very decisive player for us! Jovetic represents an investment in the future, I would pick him over RVP. RVP has had one hot season in a team he is the centre of, the RVP we would get or any other club apart from Arsenal is the RVP of Euro 2012. A waste of €! Cavani represents the best investment for, he will settle quicker and proved himself to be lethal!!!! Juve, go for Cavani!
on the 20th July, 2012 at 10:02am
Jovetic all the way. He will be a future Ballon Dor for sure. He's not really the bomber that we need but too good oportunity to pass up. At Juve he will become the Top Player we all want. Its a crime to even compare Giovinco to him
on the 20th July, 2012 at 9:30am
Buy jovetic, and play him together with matri. Matri is WAY underestimated, let him play a full season and he will score 20+ goals. Gio, vuci, jovetic, matri and quags as our attacking lineup this season would be awesome.
on the 20th July, 2012 at 9:00am
Jovetic needs another excellent, injury free season at Fiorentina to merit more than 15 million euros.

Van Persie I'd take in a heartbeat, but not at 30 million, though Arsenal can't realistically ask that much for too long. They have much less bargaining power than they even did with Fabregas.

Stylistically I think Matri is ideal for Juve, albeit not quite good enough. Sadly, though I don't think he was played enough last season, with 23 starts.

I dunno, I suppose Higuain is the best answer.
on the 20th July, 2012 at 8:51am
Juve should play with there own strikers
U have giovinco/ matri/ vucinic/quagliarella/
I hope juve dont sell or loan out matri on any striker
U have mvp in the mid now isla and pogba what more can u ask for
Im happy with the team juve has we got a fast young team
on the 20th July, 2012 at 1:28am
Juve should get cavani. Be lets be real its not gonna happen
I would make a deal with rvp and get him on a free
transfer sice he doesn't wanna stay in england or go to spain
And his dad is pushing him to play for juve

So this is what i would do save him for next season
This year get jovetic save more money cause there gonna win the 2013 season
Give krasik to napoi and try to get hamsik then u see the team your gonna have next season vidal hamsik pirlo jovetic giovinco vucinic rvp
on the 20th July, 2012 at 1:06am
Neither. Start giving the Italians a go. So much talent going elsewhere. Destro, matti., should have got Veratti. Come on juve. Far too much money and uncertainties with these two players.
on the 20th July, 2012 at 12:00am
Neither is the right choice. I think Cavani and Napoli can be tempted...
on the 19th July, 2012 at 10:08pm
I agree with the majority of the posts on here, RVP is going to be 29 in August and, last year aside is notoriously injury prone, Jo-Jo is not a 25+ goal a season man either. I'm a fan of Italian football and for that reason would like to see Cavani stay at Napoli to keep the league competitive. Therefore any one of Higuain, Tevez, Falcao, Suarez (my personal fave)or even Damaio would be a far better option than RVP or Jo-Jo. I would also take the punt on Rossi at a low price/low wages
on the 19th July, 2012 at 9:53pm
Juve should get Leandro Damião for 20m
on the 19th July, 2012 at 8:47pm
£30 million for "potential". Wasn't there an article on FI a few days ago saying £12 million was too much for Veratti?
on the 19th July, 2012 at 5:46pm
Not sure if you can compare, to be frank. Jovetic isn't a centre forward.
on the 19th July, 2012 at 5:00pm
If Juve is serious for champions league this year, then go for RVP. Personaly I feel Matri deservse another chance with Quad and Giovinco as second strikers.
on the 19th July, 2012 at 4:28pm
Neither are what Juve should be looking for, and I don't think Juve are actually considering either of them - van persie with the transfer fee and wage demands is high risk considering his injury problems, age and he hasn't really experienced serie a, JoJo is not what Juve are looking for. That said, if we had money we should be going for JoJo. Players like him don't come on the market very often and his price tag is actually reasonable..

For the top striker, I'd prefer Higauin or Cavani but..
on the 19th July, 2012 at 4:27pm
Once they've sold all the Deadwood and dipped into their own resources, why don't they just buy both.
on the 19th July, 2012 at 4:10pm
Cavani-Higuain-Dzeko....any of them would be great, RVP and Jovetic are very skilled and talented but don't suit the Juve system, we need a top class capocannoniere.
If we can't get a top player, Why not consider investing in a young, home grown option like Destro or even Immobile! He's young but has so much potential, its about time we gave young Italians a chance to prove themselves on the big stage!
on the 19th July, 2012 at 4:04pm
I agree with most, these two are the wrong players for JUVE. Lets give GIOVINCO a chance. I think with his creativity which is among the best, he might bring out the best of Matri. If were going to break the bank for a striker than it must be CAVANI.
on the 19th July, 2012 at 2:44pm
Jojo is a great talent, but he's not what Juve need, especially since Vucinic and Giovinco already play in that role. We need a CF - and that would normally be Cavani, but Napoli won't sell him to another team in Serie A, and the player doesn't appear to be interested in coming to Juve. So what about Falcao? He'd be huge, but aren't interested? RvP would be a solution, but a $$$ short-term one. Cavani or Falcao - Jojo would be a surplus buy. If they wanted him, they shouldn't have got Giovinco
on the 19th July, 2012 at 2:08pm

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