Thursday November 29 2012
Juve-Toro: Holy Mole…

One of Italy’s biggest rivalries will be revived this weekend, but will it prove to be worth the wait? Scott Fleming looks forward to the Derby della Mole.

Three years and eight months. That’s how long we’ve been waiting for a Derby della Mole. That wait will finally come to an end this Saturday evening, with the first edition in the derby’s 105 year history to be played at the Juventus Stadium.

I’d like to say how much we’ve all missed it. But unless you support either club, the truth is you probably haven’t. The Mole is the equal of the Madonnina and Capitale derbies in terms of history and tradition, but in terms of competitiveness and excitement, the most recent editions have been sadly lacking.

Torino haven’t beaten Juventus since April 1995. Just three goals have been scored in the last four derbies – three 1-0 Juve wins and a goalless draw.  But before you decide to do something foolish with your Saturday night, such as socialising, there is plenty of evidence to suggest that this game will be different. Indeed, the simple fact that Turin has been starved of its derby for so long almost guarantees it.

Firstly, Juventus are no longer invincible. To describe them as vulnerable would be pushing it, but a run of one win in four Serie A games is certainly abnormal for Antonio Conte’s side. Sunday’s 1-0 defeat to Milan has prompted questions and resurrected everyone’s favourite, in-no-way tedious polemic about their lack of a ‘top player’ up front.

Then there’s the fact that to take something from Saturday’s game would be typical of Giampiero Ventura’s Toro. The Serie B runners up have managed to lose most of the games they’ve been expected to win since returning to the top flight, yet proved surprisingly strong against the big clubs and in away games. The Granata have lost just once on their travels and held Lazio, Napoli and Fiorentina to draws in recent weeks.

The fixture should also provide plenty of intrigue from a tactical perspective, pitting Conte’s 3-5-2 against Ventura’s 4-2-4. Conte was also fond of the audacious 4-2-4 in the past, hence Bari’s decision to replace him with Ventura when he left the Apulian outfit in 2009.

The Derby della Mole has borne witness to some brilliant and bizarre happenings over the years, from Torino founder Alfredo Dick being locked in the dressing room by Juve during the very first meeting to gunfire breaking out in a ‘friendly’ between the two that took place shortly after the end of World War II.

We’re unlikely to see anything quite like that on Saturday, but hopefully we will see the dawn of a new era, when Turin derbies are a lot better to watch, and a lot harder to predict. 

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Have your say...
An Interista supported Toro even said "Forza" to them... hah. I bet he said that too last week when Juve face Milan.

I, as a Bianconero, will never support AC Milan in the Milan derby. Even though i despise the blue more than the red one, i won't support them.
on the 3rd December, 2012 at 8:21am
If there was a fixture Toro were likely not going to win this season, it's today's DDLM. FOOOOORRZZZAAA TORO!!!
on the 1st December, 2012 at 6:32pm
I think this derby will suffer by comparison to its Genoa/Rome/Milan equivalents, as the Toro fans will be restricted to the usual "away fans" allocation. So no spectacular coreo from BOTH curvas.

In any case, as an Interista, I'll be cheering on the Granata, despite them being to 7/1 against.

Forza Toro!!!
on the 30th November, 2012 at 11:36pm
Agree with all of you that i wish we had carrera.Alessio lacks passion.His reaction when the team is losing is almost the same as when they're winning.
on the 30th November, 2012 at 8:30pm
C'MON LADS! 1 more week, let's smash Torino and Shaktar, go top of our group, get Conte back, pick up a finisher in January then anything can happen in the CL! Let's remind this generation who we are! FORZA JUVE!
on the 30th November, 2012 at 7:16am
I knew our boys would lose against ACM after terrorizing Chelsea. I have to say Carrera is a way better bench leader than Allesio. Alessio is too passive like Zaccheroni was. The juve boys require the hairdryer affect in their faces to keep them on track and on task. Otherwise they quickly let the green pastures of victory take away from the determination and grit. I find it to no surprise at all that Carrera was unbeaten at the helm while Allessio has already yielded 2 losses for the club.
on the 29th November, 2012 at 10:22pm

First, you have a great name.

Second, he does, but the team needs his guidance during the games. Not every game is the same. As you saw, Alessio ruined Inter, Milan games (to mention a few) with his stupidity.
on the 29th November, 2012 at 6:47pm
Mustafa: but Conte trains the team every day and he selects the lineup each week.
on the 29th November, 2012 at 6:28pm
I have to think Conte bag practiced the boys after that dreadful game against Milan. I'm expecting a blow out.
on the 29th November, 2012 at 5:37pm
Why can't they just keep carrera there until conte returns, alessio is to reserved on the bench, and it needs conte to make those minor adjustment during the game, if they can just hold on unitl he returns, but the football athourities have tried everything to destroy Juve again, banning him int he league and champions league, hoping they would be out of both by the time he came back
on the 29th November, 2012 at 4:41pm
on the 29th November, 2012 at 4:00pm
" but a run of one win in four Serie A games is certainly abnormal for Antonio Conte’s side"

It's not Conte's side until Conte is back. The only reason that Juve's performance drops is because of Alessio.

It's the final week that we see him in charge.

However, Juve will demolish Torino.
on the 29th November, 2012 at 1:43pm

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