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Friday April 27 2018
Liverpool fans need to know

If Police and media in Rome are creating the expectation of Liverpool 'hooligans' causing trouble, Susy Campanale thinks that's worth knowing in advance

Don’t shoot the messenger.

Liverpool fans were furious with us – we were even trending in Liverpool on Twitter at one stage – for publishing a story that was in Il Tempo newspaper and very reputable news agency ANSA. It claimed 1,000 of the 5,000 fans flying in from England for the second leg of the Champions League semi-final with Roma were “at risk of committing violence” and “police operations will aim to prevent reprisals” after Roma ultras left Sean Cox in an induced coma.

This is not some gutter press or unreliable website known for sharing unsubstantiated rumours. This is ANSA, the Italian equivalent of Reuters. If they cite police sources, it means someone from within the police told them. That is what you should be concerned about, rather than us translating said story into English and passing it on.

Consider this a warning. The narrative being spun in the Italian media, and within the local authorities at the highest level, is that the focus on policing the second leg in Rome will be “preventing trouble.” This translates as herding the Liverpool fans like cattle and not being afraid to use a cattle prod. Trust me when I say a baton charge will do far more damage than a belt being swung and the police in Italy are pretty much untouchable when wearing riot gear. They hit first, ask questions later.

Italians also have a very different view of what ‘drunk and disorderly’ looks like. An average Saturday night on the streets of London, Liverpool or Newcastle would be reason enough for a curfew and tanks rolling down the street in Italy. Singing loudly, taking a dip in a fountain, smashing a glass bottle – accidentally or not – and being generally obnoxious will get you clobbered. Stand anywhere near someone being a bit lairy inside the stadium and you’re likely to get whacked in the general baton charge up and down the stands or crushed as everyone flees.

Wandering outside of the prescribed zones for Liverpool fans to gather will get you called a troublemaker and eventually blamed for being an easy target. Steer well clear of Ponte Milvio and Ponte della Musica, those are the hunting grounds of stabbers. People ask why Roma ultras can be unpunished when they have such a long history of stabbings. The answer is: location, location, location. A club is only responsible for the actions of their supporters near the ground, which is why the bridges represent such hotspots for clashes.

Do we believe there are 1,000 violent Liverpool hooligans on their way to Rome? No. Do the Italian police and authorities want that to be the story ahead of the match? Probably. That is what should concern you, not whether we inform you of what is being said about Liverpool fans in Italy.

We don’t want to see anyone hurt. We don’t hate anybody. We have no agenda in favour or against anyone. Consider this a form of Tripadvisor review and be aware of the situation you are walking in to.

Have your say...
As a LFC fan who has been to Rome for the final in 77, I kind of like this article. Its refreshingly honest journalism. Quite true that the police do lump us all together and are prepared to hit out. True that we are also targets for elements of roman youth. I think that what has changed is that Italian Ultras are behind the times because the supporters who follow English clubs have become a lot less violent. Working class lads here watch matches from pubs not grounds.
on the 5th May, 2018 at 7:55am
I feel saddened by the article, What happened in Liveroool never should have happened. What should have been an article on Champions League football has nothing to do with football. There ard no hooligans on either side, just criminals! Football is sport not a battle field. It should unite and entertain,G not divide and terrorise. Such is the state of Italian football at the moment that we focus on fear instead of hope. No World cup, no national coach, no direction, no future, now this, no hope!
on the 30th April, 2018 at 3:51pm
This is poor journalism, the people who may act in this way are all subject to bans, and have to surrender passports before the match. Associating Liverpool as typical English fans is crazy, Liverpool fans hate the English and do not associate with the national team etc...The middle classes took over the EPL when it first became the Premier league..most working class have been outpriced from watching their clubs..hooliganism died in the 90s..different breed of fan now
on the 30th April, 2018 at 3:22pm
The saint that is the english football fan must be protected.They have never ever engaged in football violence and the non totally racist english media call it right when they blame the nasty Italian fans and Italian media.
on the 30th April, 2018 at 9:04am
Lol! Liverpool fans playing victim?!? Shocker. Then they go to the comments section to make racist comments! The irony! Just jealous cause our women are hotter, our food tastes better, our art is more prestigious, our music is better, we are just a better country, period.

Attacking footballItalia for simply translating credible sources just shows how desperate they are to pull out the victim card. Get over yourselves!

Hope Sean recovers and the men responsible get a fair trial.
on the 28th April, 2018 at 6:53am
Watch this, then think before you make stupid comments. Citing 'police sources' without having any idea where those sources came from is lazy, lazy journalism. In fact it's not even journalism, it's click bait. 
on the 28th April, 2018 at 12:47am
Who hasn't experienced the drunk, disrespectful, stupid British tourist? Hopefully the rest of the world will escape them now when they are building their walls...
on the 27th April, 2018 at 10:06pm
English fans acting as if their isn't still hooliganism and violence around stadiums it is frankly absurd. Take it from someone who has worked at Wembley stadium and the emirates stadium that this kind of disruptive behaviour still exists.

I have no time for roma hooligan or any other Italian hooligans people go to games to enjoy themselves to be entertained not to be assaulted if that is what you are in maybe you should consider amateur fighting leagues to let out your anger.
on the 27th April, 2018 at 5:48pm
@jake
I ask myself that very question about England fans! Forgotten Amsterdam just afew month ago?
Like i said before tables and chairs don't fight back the ultras do so look for problems and you'll find it.
Look at England fan all those years ago in Rome when riot police went in and there was outrage coz the riot police did what riot police are there to do. The riot police didnt just turn up and hit people randomly they go where there is trouble and thats normally where English fans are.
on the 27th April, 2018 at 4:25pm
@ Riommanist
" Salah knew he had to leave Riomma unless he wanted to stay trophyless for a decade like those two."

You say it as if Liverpool were winning titles after titles.
Last league win was when ?
on the 27th April, 2018 at 4:04pm
One has to wonder why it'sa always the Roma fans that cause trouble either at home o raway on European matches especially against the English.
on the 27th April, 2018 at 3:02pm
Totti and De Rossi are the on field elements of the fan base. Cheating, diving, punching people off the ball, feigning injury. It is an embarrassment that these two are even Italian. Salah knew he had to leave Riomma unless he wanted to stay trophyless for a decade like those two.
on the 27th April, 2018 at 2:00pm
@anonymous
That attitude that will get'innocent' fans into trouble and problems. When English fans turn up and smash tables, chairs,wreck resturants and bars i guess thats ok is it? Don't come on here and disrespect italians.
Go to Rome and watch the match the police have warned of areas to stay away from but being sooo 'innocent' you guys will end up in that area looking for trouble and when you get it and realise people fight back unlike tables and chairs you'll come back on here insulting!
on the 27th April, 2018 at 12:36pm
Forza Roma. Hope they win on and off the pitch... there is no smoke without fire. I went to Roma chelsea match n sat with Chelsea fans and i was insulted and threatened fron the min sat down. Those 'poor' liverpool fans were almost certainly being 'friendly' and 'welcoming' when it all kicked off!!! Wake up people. People on here go on like the English supporters are angels, please! They are worse than ultra. The only diffrence is the ultra don't sit back while English smash bar stalls.
on the 27th April, 2018 at 12:22pm
It's better to be safe than sorry. Liverpool unfortunately has a bad history of fan trouble. Roma certainly do to.
I hope Seán Cox can make a full recovery and that there is no repeat of the slack policing experienced around Anfield.

The recent videos showing not a small number but hundreds of Liverpool supporters attacking a bus is fresh in everyones memory
on the 27th April, 2018 at 11:58am
@ Mr. X I agree it was unnecessary to bring Totti into it but it was even more unnecessary to blame Balotelli for being kicked by the golden child. If had been the other way round we all know what people would've said. There's a word for when you treat two people differently because of the colour of the skin.
on the 27th April, 2018 at 11:23am
Haha Scouse calling Italians greasy and bemoaning violence while attacking half the busses that come through town.

Some cheek.
on the 27th April, 2018 at 11:06am
@Riommanist: Don't pull Totti into this. Everyone who has played with him (including Liverpool's Salah and e.g. Riise) says the same thing, that he is a kind and sweet person. You were not on the field and i doubt you even watched the game against Inter where Totti kicked Balotelli. Sure it was a bad thing but only caused by Balotelli himself provoking Totti over the whole game and even Mario himself would tell you the same thing.
on the 27th April, 2018 at 10:54am
I think what Italians dont know is, this skinning (going match in stome island etc) it went out of fashion many years ago in england...the 70s and 80s yes i was there and have some regrets..But at in EPL now,you see people from middle-upperclass as its soooo expensive (sean cox an example).....because of all these new fans men, women, children...the prices went up like 9 times usual...meaning we have to watch in house and still pay for satellite tv..thats y epl is so rich
on the 27th April, 2018 at 10:30am
typical greasy roma fans who have stabbed liverpool man utd spurs and middlesborough fans in the past and now try to play the victim card ........rome is a scumbag city with scumbag people

fake new on this website trying to cause trouble
on the 27th April, 2018 at 9:47am
Agreed, a very odd article to say the least.
on the 27th April, 2018 at 8:44am
What a bizarre article. We'll shoot the messenger if the messenger is using their position in the press not to discuss the significant issues that Italy and Italian football has with hooliganism and the disgraceful roll of the police. That is the story. Warning Liverpool fans to stay away because they might get killed is not the job of a journalist. It is the job of the British Foreign Office which then prompts journalists to do their job of uncovering why that is.
on the 27th April, 2018 at 7:58am
Roma fans are the scummiest, epitomised by the most disgraceful footballer of a generation, the Poulsen spitting, Balotelli hacking and celebrated diver Francesco Titto.

Roma fans stab you in the bum, thats all you need to know.
on the 27th April, 2018 at 7:53am
Bradley you're no different then those scousers going over. Go change your diaper and enjoy the match.
on the 27th April, 2018 at 4:24am
ciao amici!
it's absolutely unacceptable for any fan or person to do such
a horrific crime to another fan!
as an Italian and a fan i would like to apologize to SEAN COX
for the damage that we caused him&wish him to get well soon!
i hope AS ROMA will beat Liverpool in a clean /fantastic atmosphere!!
FORZA ITALIA!
GO ROMA GO AND MAKE US PROUD!
on the 27th April, 2018 at 1:29am
Italian police are absolutely disgraceful. The Roma Ultras can't be punished because of location location location? What is that supposed to mean. The police know where they congregate-arrest them. Ban them. There are no 1000 dangerous Liverpool fans coming over. One thing is for sure...I have read lists of areas not to go because the Ultras hang out there. In Liverpool there is no such area. Hooliganism went out of fashion ages ago.
on the 27th April, 2018 at 1:10am

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