Thursday July 12 2012
Start the revolution without me

The reported departures of Thiago Silva and Zlatan Ibrahimovic from Milan might not be such a bad thing after all, argues Dave Taylor.

Any revolution that was planned by Milan after their timid defence of the Scudetto last season looks to be over already if it is true about the sale of their only two world class players Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Thiago Silva.

At least that is what some fans think, looking at the various forums.

“Anything is possible as the transfer market is very unpredictable. It has happened in the past and it can happen again this season,” hinted Vice-President Adriano Galliani earlier this week.

With both Juve and Inter leading busy transfer campaigns, Milan fans are left wondering when and if their club is going to bring in a big name. Yes they are aware that there are financial problems and it seems free signings and co-ownerships are a sign of the times for the club, but it doesn’t stop them wanting a big name.

Of course, they know their club needs to be aware of the new UEFA Financial Fair Play regulations, which means they need to lower their massive wage bill, stop big spending on players and live within their means to make a profit or they will find themselves locked out of Europe. Milan’s proposed sale of Silva and Ibra to Paris Saint-Germain shows how serious they are over this particular aspect.

Yet, with this money available it will be highly unusual if Galliani has not got something up his sleeve already. Indeed, today’s Gazzetta dello Sport reports that he already has several players in mind if both the sales go through. Names like Edin Dzeko, Carlos Tevez and Mattia Destro as well as Lass Diarra, Aleksandar Kolarov and Dede are all mentioned.

Although it is sad to lose Silva and Ibra, it’s probably the Brazilian’s loss that will be most keenly felt. However, with the finances boosted and according to the Gazzetta, a saving in wages combined with the transfer fee amounting to €170m, they cannot afford to turn it down. Also, there are still seven weeks to go before the transfer window closes and two or three potentially top buys are far from fantasy.

A point of concern, though, is that whilst neither Ibra nor Silva were quite Bandieri, they were players who could be relied on for the big occasion. The end-of-season exit of some of the club’s senatori - Clarence Seedorf, Alessandro Nesta, Filippo Inzaghi and Gennaro Gattuso was a massive loss, and although none of them finished as regular first-teamers - Nesta started the most with 16 games - they exemplified the heart and soul of the Rossoneri.

The remaining players might be able to hold their own at the top but those veterans had elegance, composure under attack, they had pride in the shirt and, most of all, experience at the very highest level - one that alongside captain Massimo Ambrosini only Ibra and Silva have.

However, one player’s absence is another’s chance to prove himself. There are some great youngsters and five new players at Milanello who will be willing to show Coach Massimiliano Allegri what they have. It all depends on how quickly he can mould a new team into a united squad willing to fight hard on three fronts. Let’s not forget with Alexandre Pato, Antonio Cassano and Mathieu Flamini were missing for most of the season as was Kevin Prince-Boateng.

If the Rossoneri can manage to avoid too many injuries, perhaps the revolution might not be called off after all, even without Ibrahimovic and Silva.

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Have your say...

Dont even know what you mean.

How can you conclude that half of the teams in Seria A are suddenly a bigger treat then milan only because of the departure of Ibra and Silva?
on the 12th July, 2012 at 5:59pm
Why does Berlusconi allow this to happen to his 'beloved' football team?? OK, you milked it for everything it is worth, you are selling off the best players, what next? Will you not be content until you see Milan as a middle/bottom of the table team?? Just sell the club and be done with it. I am sure that there will be some rich Arab investor who will be able to take Milan FORWARD - new stadium, new players and build a team that can compete with the best in the world.
on the 12th July, 2012 at 5:57pm
If you sell your best players, you have to have deals already in place to replace them, otherwise you get fan reaction like we are seeing now. When Juventus sold Zidane and Inzaghi in 2001, Trezeguet was already at the club to replace Inzaghi, then Buffon, Thuram and Nedved were bought soon after. All three went on to become world class players and Juventus legends. If Milan haven't got top quality replacements lined up, they could struggle to compete with Juventus, who are already stronger.
on the 12th July, 2012 at 5:50pm
The main problem is that Milan doesn't have strategy, Juve constructed their new team considering new rules, while Milan catches free transfers with huge wage bills, then other players also demand high salaries, when Flamini has 4.5 mln. Ibras departure can be explained as he had huge salary and had 3 or 4 years remained with such mln expenses, while silvas sale is the sign that Milan's greatness is over they are selling their pearls for the last few years.
Silvio should sell the club or invest
on the 12th July, 2012 at 5:50pm
I think the best sale for milan would be the exit of Galliani and silly Silvio
on the 12th July, 2012 at 5:22pm
Pls no Teves ever!!!
on the 12th July, 2012 at 5:20pm
Dzeko, Kolarov, Dede, Diarra are all non-eu players. After getting Gabriel, Milan is allowed to sign only one more non-eu.
on the 12th July, 2012 at 5:20pm
Wow. Really? Tell me ... who is the Milan defence comprised of if Silva leaves? Mexes, Abate, De Ceglie, Antonini, and Bonera. That's a joke .. this is a joke right? STOP IT.

Football-Italia .. you're better than this.
on the 12th July, 2012 at 4:34pm
I think Dave's got an excellent point here - with the Financial Fairplay coming into a huge role with the Champions League, Milan can't afford to get knocked out and not participate - sure it looks like the club's going down, but with Dzeko and Dede, Milan will be making smart investments for the future aka the new Ibra and T. Silva. Also, Ibra can't win the Champions League anyways so there's another boost.
on the 12th July, 2012 at 4:08pm
Ibra and silva are great players. When they came to Milan their careers hit hard times -ibra at Barca and silva returned to brazil after bad spells at Porto and Dynamo.
Milan brought these players back to their best and secured their title of 'world class' players.
If they want to leave the club that took them back to the top for more money, they deserve the same faith as kaka and shevchenko - failure. Galliani would sell his own mother if the price was right, the players don't hve 2 accept it
on the 12th July, 2012 at 3:50pm
Milan are doomed, as long as berlusconi and galliani are around milan will achieve nothing, it is time for them to move on. Milan will do extremely well to finish in the europa league postions next year. my guess is that only about 1/4 of the money recieved will be reinvested in new players and that is the most worrying thing. Next season it will be boateng and pato who leave.

abate acerbi mexes antonini
montolivo nocerino
robinho cassano
on the 12th July, 2012 at 3:43pm
So much for all the promises from Galliani that "we will absolutely not sell Thiago Silva and Ibra." What a croc. So, from this point forward, I will not believe a single word that comes out of Galliani's mouth. I don't mind Ibra leaving. We all know he's a mercenary, but losing T. Silva is disastrous...ugh
on the 12th July, 2012 at 3:35pm
Sell Ibra, sell Silva. Yes Silva is world class after learning from the best but he is 27 and this sum of money is too good to refuse. Also the prospect of getting in my eyes Tevez, Destro, and a few good defenders is well worth it. Nobody knew about Silva until he was given a chance. In my view we need to bring players from the youth team. They are the ones who will sweat blood for the jersey. If we use players from the youth team and dont win the scudetto I will be happy
on the 12th July, 2012 at 3:26pm
This can be a great opportunity, if milan uses the money wisely. They should be buying Destro first. I've always suggested Fabbrini as well, because he is a great trequartista in the making. Ogbonna should be spent on to replace Silva. And maybe a few other U21 players. Italy has so many great players. Its time milan started paying attention to them.
on the 12th July, 2012 at 2:46pm
Last year Milan had three consistent players and those were Ibrahimovic, Nocerino and Thiago Silva. Had it not been for the injury to Thiago Silva, which could have been avoided, these three would have have been the players with the most number of appearances for Milan in the league. Ibra scored the goals, Thiago Silva kept it tight at the back and Nocerino contributed both offensively and defensively. There is no way Milan can compete for the Scudetto (forget CL) without their best two players.
on the 12th July, 2012 at 2:39pm
Preparations for gaurdiola possibly? Been linked with the club in the past. I don't think he'll be interested this season but after he's had his break, financially sound club with some capital to spend, might be an interesting proposition.
on the 12th July, 2012 at 2:10pm
There are no more than 5 or 6 world class players an 2 of them are Ibra and Tiago...Milan will have no chanced to win sonething imortant in Italy and season they will very hard reach third place.Nov napoli is stronger than Milan and Roma and Lazio are equal..Revolution...yes but for better...Let Barsa start revolution without Pyol, Mesi ,Iniesta ,Chavi....Or real without Ronaldo,Casiljas, Ozzil,Ramos...Stupid very stupid act from MIlan...On the end of seson they will gain less money
on the 12th July, 2012 at 1:49pm
Kaka still hasn't been properly replaced. When Sheva left, Milan failed to bring in an equal. Remember Ricardo Olivera (who flopped masssively), Gilardino? In fact, so desperate they went for Ronaldo. To be honest, this sale of Ibra (even with his annoying arrogance) and Silva makes me very apprehensive for Milan's future to compete. And knowing Milan, they will not go for any of those players mentioned above, "to save money". What a joke.
on the 12th July, 2012 at 1:34pm
Good effort, Dave, but I'm afraid there's no two ways about it: though the departure of Ibra in particular might allow Allegri to adopt a fresh approach and create a stronger team spirit within the squad, Milan will definitely be a weaker side without the two of them.

Meanwhile, sad though it is, Milan as a club - for all its glorious history - can no longer be regarded as one of the game's superpowers when nouveau riche outfits like PSG are able to poach players off them.
on the 12th July, 2012 at 1:33pm
I would not mind Ibra being sold but Milan selling Silva would spell doomsday .. Relying on Acerbi/Ogbonna/Mexes/AStori over the course of season intending to win trophies is a tad too much .. Probably the rebuilding phase which had to start 3-4 years back has started now..Hoping Milan relies on youngsters like Destro rather than spending on someone like Caroll .. !!
on the 12th July, 2012 at 1:22pm
As a Milan Fan from the beginning of 90s, I can assure you nothing, i repeat nothing good can come out of this.

It's utterly disappointing, and I dont care if we get destro for Ibra or Tevez or whatever. Losing these two only proves once again how small Italian teams are these days.

"Five new players", im stunned that you even bring that up. Except for Montelivo, they are below average Seria A quality, big whoop.

I'm a shamed Milan supporter, for the first time in my Life.
on the 12th July, 2012 at 1:16pm
Milan never give their youth a chance. Loosing Nesta, T.Silva and Ibra in an already thin squad that is overreliant on waning stars cannot be a good thing. I doubt all of the proceeds of sales will go back into reinforcing the squad, and even if they do Milan will make botched,cheap signings. I think a period of Juve dominance may finally be back on the cards.
on the 12th July, 2012 at 1:11pm
I am starting to come around on the loss of both these players. While their absence would clearly be felt (Silva's in particular), I feel Milan can have success without them. I don't however, understand the rumours or logic of bringing in the rumoured players. All those players mentioned would have similarly high wages making little sense to give up a known commodity in Serie A for a similarly priced one with little-to-no Serie A experience. I would much rather see Galliani reinvest on youth.
on the 12th July, 2012 at 12:53pm
PSG is destroying Serie A.
on the 12th July, 2012 at 12:53pm
This sport, the players, media, team presidents are all such a disaster. Just sell or buy or shut up! Too much back and forth. I have no idea why everything has to be so dramatic. It's like a bunch of teenage girls are running the show between the end of May and the start of the new season every year.
on the 12th July, 2012 at 12:52pm
Here's the deal, this a great idea if you take that money and spend it on great young talent. ie. Balotelli, Khedira, Ozil, Bale, Neymar, Thiago Alcântara, even Cavani at 25.

However spending +100 million on the likes of Dirra & Tevez bout 28+ and other vets, who aren't even starters will only make Milan a middle of the road team. Dede is the only rumored player who fits the bill.

The sale only works with you execute a good future plan from it, and that has yet to be determined.
on the 12th July, 2012 at 12:39pm
They managed this with Kaka and Silva to a certain degree but the amount of money which has been wasted on e.g. Ronaldinho and Ronaldo, years after their best. Even Ibra should have been bought and sold years ago. We should have players like Cavani and Jovetic. We should also be giving young players a chance like Astori and El Sharaway.
on the 12th July, 2012 at 12:38pm
I have no problem with Milan selling off players for big money, especially Ibra who, at 31, won't be getting any better. My problem is the rubbish replacements that usually arrive. Olivera for Sheva and Ronaldinho/Robinho to fill in for Kaka. None of those have worked out. I just worry that half the money will be wasted on that Tevez clown while good young players like Jovetic and Armero(left back they really need) will be ignored just to sign a "big name".
on the 12th July, 2012 at 12:38pm
Selling T.Silva will be quite unfortunate but nonetheless, nobody is irreplaceable in Milan..Ibra should be sold, I have nothing against his sale but the combined fee on 65m Euros is a bit too little. I would prefer carlitos tevez in place of ibra but finding a replacement for Silva, dunno how. Milan need to be a little more italian by bringing in someone like ogbonna or bochetti.

The revolution begins now..............
on the 12th July, 2012 at 12:36pm
I don't share your optism. While I don't have a problem cashing in on Silva and Ibra it is the way it is done. Both their replacements should already be in place but they are not. The problem with Milan is they spend money trying to get players in on free transfers and then pay huge salaries and this means they cannot plan. They have to take whatever is available for free. A proper transfer policy would see them spend money on the players before they peak and sell them after they peak.
on the 12th July, 2012 at 12:36pm

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