Sunday September 30 2012
Zdenek in Juvelandia

Juventus got the sweetest revenge possible over age-old rival Zdenek Zeman, writes Susy Campanale.

Zdenek Zeman was asked several questions about Juventus at his presentation Press conference when he signed for Roma this summer. The media know they can always get a juicy quote out of the Czech and he obliges, whether it’s a dig at doping allegations, Calciopoli or the ‘Stile Juve.’ He is seen by many as a truth-teller, a man who was kept from top-ranking jobs and success purely because he is an uncomfortable presence for the powers that be. A Coach whose idea of all-attack football would revolutionise Serie A if only everyone would drop the pretence and adopt his vision. Zemanlandia, they call his magical teams and the atmosphere they create for the fans. It was Juvelandia we saw on Saturday night.

“Juventus were clearly superior throughout the entire match.” Those were the words Zeman uttered in his famous monotone drawl after a 4-1 thrashing that felt more like 8-1. The Bianconeri could’ve set a new record for goals in a single game if they had kept up the pressure of the first half, but Italian teams do insist on taking a breather, as if 90 minutes is an implausibly long time to be running around for. The result was irrelevant, because after that performance it was evident to even the most blindly passionate Roma supporter that they were crushed like an ant under an industrial-strength steamroller.

I am so glad that this match was not marred by red cards or refereeing errors. If anything, the official could’ve been harsher by giving Rodrigo Taddei a red card for stopping a clear scoring opportunity before the first goal. No excuses, no conspiracy theories, no alibis. Juve were simply better.

So why has Zeman never found true success? Because he doesn’t win. His sides are always entertaining to watch – not necessarily for their own fans, but certainly for all neutrals – but their weaknesses are glaring. The defence was an absolute shambles in Turin with offside traps failing to be activated in midfield and motorway-sized gaps between players. If they don’t move the ball quickly, or in this case get anywhere near the ball, then the attacking approach vanishes and all you’re left with is an embarrassing back four. We’ve seen this season that Roma even manage to flip that switch during a single game, going from a dominant opening hour and 2-0 lead over Bologna to losing 3-2.

You know what you get with Zeman and a shocking defence is pretty much guaranteed, so nobody can suddenly complain that they leak goals. Everyone was aware of this when he was hired. I’m sure he will bring his entertaining attack to the squad eventually and give fans plenty to cheer about on mad rollercoaster journeys. However, if Roma fans expect to win trophies, then they’ve really got the wrong man.

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Have your say...
@DamianBuckley "when we have our day we'll handle it with more class than many of our detractors"

Seriously? Roma's problem has always been that they celebrate before they have won. You know nothing about the mentalita` Romana. Zeman was hailed as a hero when it was announced that he was hired again. Banners draped across the colosseum, outside Trigoria, as if Jesus was coming back to Roma. The fact is that he won stuff-all the first time & will win less this time. And I'm a lifelong Roma fan.
on the 5th October, 2012 at 4:23am
@ SempreJUVE

At least Zeman is not a criminal.
on the 3rd October, 2012 at 11:02pm
Roma or Inter or Milan or Lazio or Napoli are no better then the accusations being thrown Juve's way for anything they have been blamed for.

Listen in the end the star's and the trophies stolen away from us is living proof of jeallousy that gives Italian soccer a black eye.We have prevailed before and will always be the leader of Italian soccer until jeallousy hits us again but believe you me....we will come back once again.
on the 3rd October, 2012 at 4:59pm
Once again, Suzy's Rubentino colors come out.

First off, Juve totally outclassed Roma, no doubt.

But to claim that their were no refereeing errors is the same kind of blindness towards the facts that makes the football world hate Juventus for their past scandals.

Rizzoli, who has been partial to Northern clubs for years, gave a freekick to Marchisio after he dived. There was no handball for penalty on Castan. And there WAS a penalty on Chiellini that was not given!

Juve didn't need the help
on the 3rd October, 2012 at 3:57pm
With all respect, this is a very superficial analysis.Roma did not apply a single thing Zeman asked of them: the defence sat too deep, there was no pressing from midfielders (bar Florenzi) and forwards, nobody attacked the spaces and made runs.
As for Zeman's lack of success, in 94/95 he finished 2nd with Lazio behind a team who was certified to have been doping in that period; also, is taking penniless clubs like Foggia, Lecce and Pescara to heights never reached before not success?
on the 3rd October, 2012 at 10:45am
Better to loose badly than win behind the scenes . If u doubt this ask Moggi. But juve fans and entire club are used to winning anyway anyhow. No values anymore. All u could hire for a coach is a man who should be behind bars right now but you still defend. Thats juve for u. See u in serie C soon. Cheats!!
on the 2nd October, 2012 at 9:44pm
Hard to blame the manager, Juve have so many good players compared to the rest of the teams in Serie A they'll be doing that to a lot of sides this season.
on the 2nd October, 2012 at 6:23pm
@paul: when there is smoke there is no fire according to you?

Sorry, I have never denied Juve has for more then 1 season now the strongest and best team in serie A, without a doubt.

But blaming me for saying Juve is not the "cleanest" club the last 32 years is hiding from reality. Or is there no truth whatsoever in all allocations vs Juve, is there no smoke where there is fire?

You have the best team, win on the pitch as you do now as you'll win the scudetto with a laugh.
on the 2nd October, 2012 at 4:42pm
Yes arjen you admitted that roma was bad but you still have to have your gripe that roma was treated unfairly at the hands of juventus, you always do, all the juve fan's that read here no about you and your bitter and twisted view of juventus that's why you deserve the stick you get.
on the 2nd October, 2012 at 10:13am
@Paul: you are one pethatic person, why do I almost only see this jibberish from Juve fans...

I indicated Roma were abysmall and Juve fully deserved their victory, so no probs admitting the by far superior team won.

so could you at least first read before replying or even better: not reply at all if you have the intellect of a boiled potato that has just passed the digestive system of a zebra in his late 40's??
on the 1st October, 2012 at 7:41pm
Damn..!I thaught ROMA was a team!!!
on the 1st October, 2012 at 7:32am
Conte : First, we welcome him back to serie-a, another thing, the best answer will be given on the pitch.

DONE!!!!!! =D
on the 1st October, 2012 at 4:29am
DO some people know what the word "clearly" mean?

Arjen, I know you seek a way to feel better and maks the agony of defeat and sort of hope to overlook the actual problem-the fact that Roma is far off from a mid-table team, forget Juve.... However, I am curious to ask, don't you find it the slightest bit embarrassing, in 21st century, in the world of technology, to sit there and claim Taddei never touched Marchisio? and emphasize your point by the word "clearly"? really? Heard of video replay?
on the 30th September, 2012 at 10:00pm
Really funny to see the Zeman hate from usual bandwagon fans and trophy hunters. He just speaks his mind, will always do so. It's not always PC towards the Moggis and Gallianis but he clearly gets the spirit of most football loving Italians and he admits when his team has played badly (like yesterday). Little advise: Don't always believe the spiced up GdS versions and have some respect ! His philosophy is entertaining once implemented by New Roma ....
on the 30th September, 2012 at 7:37pm
roma fans cant help but spout their mouths off especially arjen he gives zeman a run for hes money they could almost be mistaken for being related some of the tripe they speak so anti juve pre season and juve still unbeaten cough cough
on the 30th September, 2012 at 7:15pm
oh there you are arjen yeah yeah clearly the first two goals should never have stood of course still got the blinkers on, roma looked and played like a pub team and are tbh a pub team Ive seen 13 year olds hold a better back line than the one Roma hold in fact that score line could of been a cricket score lucky if you get a europa spot i reckon never mind always next year btw arjen spec savers have a two for one going on you clearly need them with some of the things you choose to see .
on the 30th September, 2012 at 7:12pm
where is arjen all i can say what excuse you got for juventus beating you this time i suppose all the goals was because we bribed the ref and nothing to do with how bad Roma are, as for all the hype and talk about destro and how great de rossi is maybe they should learn to pass to some one in a red shirt . juve should of given you another ball to play with i think you only touched it 20 times and 4 of those was the goal keeper picking it out of the net.forza juve
on the 30th September, 2012 at 7:05pm
Pathetic 'journalism'. I have used this site for a long long time as a scozzese romanista. I won't be using it again! SEMPRE ROMA! FORZA LUPI! ODIO LA JUVE!
on the 30th September, 2012 at 6:53pm
LoL I guess actions speak louder then words, another reason why nobody take Zeman seriously.

Jose Mourinho summed it up nicely when he said Zdenek who ??? I'll have to google to find out who he is....
on the 30th September, 2012 at 6:39pm
don't call the old man a fool, his bad comments on conte and juve was not fair though.
on the 30th September, 2012 at 6:21pm
Fully deserved victory after an abysmal 'performance' from Roma, but the 1st two goals should never have been given.

Taddei clearly never touched Marchisio on the 1st goal and when the shot came in on Castans handball, it was a clear offside as an attacker (think Matri) only had Castan inbetween him and the goal, all other players (including Stek) were further up the pitch.

First foul counts and it was offside before handball, really weird no one mentioned that (or even realised it)...
on the 30th September, 2012 at 6:19pm
Zeman's attacking style of football....hahaha....Barzagli showed more attacking prowess than that entire Roma team......Keep talking probably need some pepto bismol after that game...
on the 30th September, 2012 at 6:11pm
No surprises from you, Susye. Sucker for media hype and northern teams. Ever heard: "Never slave to result."Juve was better, no doubt. Still, no need 'rubbing it in'. Also, too bad Zeman didn't fit your cliche and just admitted that Roma was not up to task, without blaming the objectively biased Rizzoli (not for first time as everybody but you knows ...). Just wait few months until Zeman's team has fully adapted his style before you predict outcome.Remember how Juve was rebuilding 2 years ago ?
on the 30th September, 2012 at 6:05pm
There are more cheap shots in this column than a Wetherspoons happy hour. I'm disappointed in Susy Campanale for taking such evident relish in kicking a man when he's down.

She factually wrong on 2 points. The reffing was controversial - Pirlo's fk shouldn't have been given and the ref gave Roma nothing till Juve were out of sight. Also, Zeman won a trophy as recently as May.

Roma will be back, and when we have our day we'll handle it with more class than many of our detractors.
on the 30th September, 2012 at 5:29pm
on the 30th September, 2012 at 4:31pm
Juventus were clearly better but the first two goals are questionable refereeing. At the most Taddei deserved a yellow - but there was hardly contact. The handball in the box was non existent. However, I don't think these decisions would have changed the game because Juve were simply better.
on the 30th September, 2012 at 3:09pm
"No excuses, no conspiracy theories, no alibis. Juve were simply better."

that was real. this is power, this is old "new" lady, this is JUVE
on the 30th September, 2012 at 3:06pm
I agree Roma were demolished by a far superior team, but it is hard to take the article seriously when it makes mention of there being no controversial refereeing decisions; the game was over after 16 minutes BECAUSE of two absolutely shocking refereeing decisions in Juve's favour!
on the 30th September, 2012 at 2:42pm
LOL at Zeman. Maybe it was Zeman taking drugs yesterday when he picked his Roma team. This old fool got punished by the force which is sweeping through Serie A right now. And that force is Juve!! Juve are to good for Serie A at the moment, Roma got battered like a Bear battered seabass! Juventus could easily have had 9,10 goals yesterday and completly played Roma off the field! What's Zeman gonna cry about now? Outclassed like Zeman ALWAYS is against Juve! Second place is the first loser! JUVE!!
on the 30th September, 2012 at 2:06pm
Roma must have been crazy to hire the old fool.What he have seen through the first 6 matches is pure Zeman football. Only one win (I do not count the 3-0 handed to them as they never stepped onto the pitch), and several inexplicable results. Brilliant against Inter, comical against Bologna, horrible against Sampdoria, and sacrificial lambs against Juventus. This is all Zeman has ever produced. But, if you enjoy 5-4 score lines, then Zeman is your man. And "grainy replay" won't change that. LOL!!
on the 30th September, 2012 at 1:42pm

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