Wednesday October 24 2012
Draw-ventus lack European aura

Juventus have complicated their Champions League path with another draw. Luca Cetta writes after the 1-1 with Nordsjaelland.

A night of Champions League shocks looked on the cards during the opening 45 minutes. Celtic led at Barcelona, Manchester United found themselves two goals down and Chelsea fell behind. In Denmark, minnows Nordsjaelland went blow for blow with Juventus as it remained scoreless.

There was to be no fairytale for Celtic, while Braga let their lead slip to lose 3-2. Shakhtar have proven to be dangerous opponents – especially at home – so perhaps the shock value was not as high when they claimed a win over Roberto Di Matteo’s side. Meanwhile, Juve toiled for little reward after falling behind to Mikkel Beckmann’s fine 50th minute free-kick. That was until Mirko Vucinic rescued a draw. A relief? Yes. The desired result? No. The Danes gained their maiden Champions League point in a result not many saw coming.

It means the Bianconeri have drawn for the third time in Europe this season and for the ninth consecutive game in European competitions. For a club of their stature that record is not good enough. Just as much as winning has become a habit domestically, not winning is prevalent on the continent.

The aura of invincibility which powers the Juve machine in Serie A is not present. When they needed to get out of a tight spot against Napoli they found a way. Here it did not occur. The typical grinta was missing. While a different regime and scenario to when the Turin giants drew their way through the Europa League two seasons ago, this side has not yet altered the pattern.

The same old problem with this Juventus reared its ugly head in. The lack of a clinical edge in attack was evident once again. A total of 33 shots, just nine on target and only one found its way past the impressive Jesper Hansen. The self-confessed Juve fan did his best to frustrate time and again with a series of saves. Gianluigi Buffon and Angelo Alessio claimed Juve deserved to win after creating ample opportunities, but the fact is they failed to capitalise.

The Danish champions should be commended for their performance. They contributed to an entertaining first half, at times holding more possession than Juventus and nearly opened the scoring, only for a superb Buffon stop to deny Joshua John. However, Juve’s captain could do little to prevent the opening goal and for the third straight contest Juventus conceded the lead. Nordsjaelland were then pinned back in their half but defended stoutly, led by youngster Jores Okore.

Could Alessio have looked to the bench sooner? In between Beckmann netting and Vucinic appearing Juve were pressing, but the game followed a predictable pattern. Once the fresh injection was made the Bianconeri looked livelier. Beside his goal the Montenegrin was readily involved, while fellow substitute Nicklas Bendtner was vigorous. On home soil and with something to prove a longer run in place of Alessando Matri may have done the trick. On a disappointing night, the Dane’s cameo and the showing of Sebastian Giovinco – who continued on from an impressive display on Saturday – were bright spots.

Group E has reached the halfway point and Juve lie third. They will fail to gain six points against Nordsjaelland as expected, but now cannot do with less than four. Shakhtar’s win over the reigning champions throws the group wide open, with the Ukrainians currently leading by three points. Should they take something away from Stamford Bridge it will aid the Old Lady’s cause. But Antonio Conte’s men must be concerned with their results as Juve’s European destiny remains in their hands. Seven points from a possible nine is the minimum required. As recent at 2009-10 Inter drew their opening three matches before qualifying and going on to claim the trophy, so all is not lost. Yet what Juventus requires above all is that winning aura to follow them into the Champions League.

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Seriously, anybody who comments here about referees or uses the name "Anonymous" has no balls and Football Italia should refrain from publishing these outlandish and idiotic comments that only amount to trolling. Thank you.
on the 24th October, 2012 at 3:30pm
Juve have always had difficulties in Europe. So this is not a surprise. Inexperience coaching? Probably, but they do lack a goal scorer. When midfielders are scoring goals midweek, the continuous missed chances, should be a sign to buy in January. Give Bendtner chance might as well, unless they realize that he can't help them. If that is the case, then send him back to Arsenal.. FORZA JUVE
on the 24th October, 2012 at 3:03pm
It's not just the finishing, that didnt seem to be a problem last season. It's the fact that they're not dominating with fluid link-up play like they were last season which I blame solely on the formation, they essentially took a player out of attack and added a centre back. Not very brave when Europes top teams tend to play with 4 attacking players
on the 24th October, 2012 at 2:58pm
Giovinco was lively, but to be honest, he missed two very good chances- once when he rounded the keeper and once when he had a close range header. Goals are what we need from Giovinco if he is to play in a striker's role. Meanwhile, I was very disappointed with Marchisio. I think he is one of the over rated players in the current Juve team, and he needs to do far more to have the permanent position in midfield that he seems to own. Goals would be nice, and soon!
on the 24th October, 2012 at 2:58pm
Juve really miss Conte
on the 24th October, 2012 at 2:57pm
Giovinco at last showing ability! The little fella may change my opinion of him again if he keeps it up.
He put in a great effort. Fair play.

European Champions 2012/13 - Juventus FC
on the 24th October, 2012 at 2:31pm
Some nonsense being banded around on here as normal….The problem isn’t fitness, desire, hunger, referees & certainly not European pedigree. The problem is our strikers. Matri & Giovinco make Vucinic look like a world beater! They couldnt finish their cappuccinos! We have being relying on our midfielders & defenders chipping in with goals for too long. I would say we need TWO World class strikers to go with Vucinic and Quagliarella. Bring in 2 of Cavani/Llorente/Jovetic & we are a top side.
on the 24th October, 2012 at 1:35pm
What does my head in is that Chelsea are poor and were last year but....they alway seem to get through because the other teams ie juve in this case dont take advantage!! Poor Juve poor last nite.
on the 24th October, 2012 at 1:31pm
The problem is we cannot convert the large majority of our chances... we need a top quality finisher, and no matter what Marrotta says to spin it around - that is our problem, and that is our weakness. We can create 500 chances, but if we re only finishing on 10% of them, it is a major problem. We will not be able to secure victories on our own accord. Instead, we win by the probability of the other side eventually making a mistake or lapse in judgement.
on the 24th October, 2012 at 1:30pm
Its true juve can only buy successs in serie a
on the 24th October, 2012 at 12:58pm
We all know that no matter what Juve do in serie a, they just don't have the european pedegree of Milan. Europe has always been Milan stage, Europe is a different league, look at Udinese and Napoli in europe, they fail to perform because you need that extra bit to play those big games midweek. That is where you can see the difference, where you can see who has long term stamina.
on the 24th October, 2012 at 12:44pm
Juve can still get through, they just need that first win n then it'l start to happen for them. I think Chelsea are deceptively average, Juve were unlucky not to beat them and Shaktar should've scored several more. In the end it'l be Juve vs Chelsea for second place and like someone else said, it'd be nice to see a few more getting behind them, as painfull as that may be. So for Inter, Juve, Napoli, Lazio, Udinese and even Milan, FORZA ITALIA!!!
on the 24th October, 2012 at 12:42pm
Come on guys, I'm a massive Juve fan too, but lets not make excuses, Juve thought they would just turn up and victory would be theirs.

Yes we dominated play, yes they had one real attempt at goal & scored, yes their goalie made a string of important saves, but the truth is had Juve been hungry then they would have won that game, end of story.

We've made it tough for ourselves now, but if we focus & show desire, there is no reason why we can not get positive results in the last 3 games.

on the 24th October, 2012 at 12:41pm
I fear if the refs dont improve then things will get worse. the times of Pierluigi Collina as ref has gone. he was by far the best Italian ref there was. we need more refs like him and not like the ones that go out there to send someone off. like what happened a couple of weeks ago. as soon as i see the ref for any game i know who is going to get sent off and who will end as winners or losers.
on the 24th October, 2012 at 12:26pm
Woeful, too lethargic & complacent. Against the "weakest" team in the group they should have ensured the 3 pts.

Paolo Rossi has claimed that the midfield let the side down as they lacked intensity, if that was the case Pogba and Marrone should have been used as Marchisio & Vidal have played alot of football of late. Personally I thought Pirlo had a strong game.

Isla was wasteful and Caceres should have played. Matri was awful & it merely highlights the need for a top striker.
on the 24th October, 2012 at 12:24pm
The reason why Serie A teams are not doing well in the CL is due to the quality of the refs we have in serie A. I watched the game last night and the mount of times the ref didnt blow for a foul that in Italy they would have is silly. In italy the refs will call play up for very little things or for nothing at all. its to "stop start" in serie A. the Italian Teams that play in eaither CL or EL are not used to it. just need to look at the reaction of the italian teams in CL and EL to see this.
on the 24th October, 2012 at 12:19pm
Hard to criticise the effort or performance and we did deserve more than one point.the only fly in the ointment is the lack of a clinical finisher but everyone knows that.I believe we will get out of this group but to go beyond the QF`s without a quality finisher is not achievable. Forza Juve!!!!!!
on the 24th October, 2012 at 12:01pm
We all know that Serie A has not fallen below the Ukrainian and Danish leagues. These results are not so shocking, as this is football. If Juve draws with the likes of Chievo and Catania on the road, nobody panics. So we need not jump out of windows when Juve draws at the Danish champions. 33 shots shows offensive prowess and dominance, but clearly a true bomber is NEEDED up front.
on the 24th October, 2012 at 11:44am
Juve had a tactical problem. Relying on two uselss wingers who didn't make a god cross all night is really ridiculous. Juve needs wingers like nedved and camoranesi who used to rip off defense. If Trezegol the standby player used to score 30 goals a season, Matri should score 50 given he receives the ball in right place and not needing to run half the pitch to reh the goal. Conte should find two wingers, , the only two who are slightly above avg i can think off these days are ruben and ribery!!!
on the 24th October, 2012 at 11:41am
Juve did very little wrong last night but could not gain the victory. This was due to an excellent performance by their opponents defence that threw themselves in front of everything & the keeper who must have had the game of his life. After writing last week that I have rarly seen Giovinco have a good game he proved me wrong last night and was very lively. Bendtner did little to impress me and is not good enough for Juve, send him back to Arsenal. It will be tough to qualify by not impossibl
on the 24th October, 2012 at 11:15am
I believe the success of Juve in Serie A Is down to Berlusconi weakening of Milan and the poor qualities at Roma,Inter e.t.c European Champions league is another competition entirely..A weak Milan side will perform better than a strong Juve side...The problem of Juve lies on them not signing a top class forward and thus means they will not get any better finishing third in that group.
on the 24th October, 2012 at 11:10am
Oh my God. Did Juventus only have Cavani or Van Persie or Hulk. I would love for them to splsh out 30-40 mill. on one player and then only one player if they cannot afford more. Let go of Bendtner and sell Matri for 10-12 mill. They lack a 20 goals per season goalscorer.
on the 24th October, 2012 at 10:58am
Not a Juve fan but its sad to see fans of italian football cant get behind Juve in Europe. If things dont improve serie a will be down to 2 places in the CL. Conte is showing his european inexperience, its a step up from serie A and they desperately need a grade A striker but who?
on the 24th October, 2012 at 10:45am
Lol i feel like laughing at that inter fan who commented above telling that the 2009 inter team showed serie a to the world...let me remind him that they collected only 2 points from the first 3 games and went on to win the champions league..
on the 24th October, 2012 at 10:23am
@ Anonymous: Your comments are hypocritical to say the least, one moment you are saying you hope Juve get knocked out as it will be a poor advert then the next you pipe up with patience is needed!!!
I wonder if you are a Milan/Inter/Roma/Lazio/Napoli fan just coming on here to air your opinions when it suits you.
I agree with my fellow readers that last night was not a good result, they have a mountain to climb and something is not right, choice of personnel & formations for CL is a big concern.
on the 24th October, 2012 at 10:22am
Why wait so long to make subs. Matri should never start, I would rather Iaquinta, matri has the touch of an elephant, why bring bendtner in to sit on the bench, I mean why bring him at all, but if you are going to at least use him.Pogba was very good on sat, vidal and marchisio were struggling, mirko should ahve come on at half time at the least, matri, I despair, Juve strikers are awful, sell some and fund a loan of somebody good, Drogba?
on the 24th October, 2012 at 10:10am
Rotating a squad, these guys are paid millions to be fit, thats it, thats their job, train, play football, have the best of everything, facilities, nutrition, perosnal training and they can not play a game every 3 days, ridiculous,if I was part of the squad I would wnat to play every game, a job like that and I would spring out of bed, not drag myself out to go to the misery I suffer. Mirko had a cold, a little sniffle, wind you neck in son!!!
on the 24th October, 2012 at 10:07am
@ Anonymous - talking about refs?! u poor deluded cretin, do you have nothing intelligent to add? oh wait ur annoymous just like your misinformed uneducated comment, i seriously hope Juve wake up and prove you wrong. lemme guess your an EPL pundit?
on the 24th October, 2012 at 10:06am
These people wanting Juve out need to get a grip, it's bad for Italian football, I am a Juve fan but I want Milan, Inter, Lazio, Udinese etc to reach semi finals and quarters, if you have not noticed clown, the Italian league is down to 3 champions league spots and falling further behind, making it harder for every team to reach it and get the cash that sustains progress in the game. Juve made it hard for themselves, why play matri!!!!!!!! please get shot of that joker, he is an abomination!!!!
on the 24th October, 2012 at 10:01am
Did Giovinco really impress you? For me he was the flop of the game. He missed an open goal from a tight angle and failed to make the difference. With Del Piero you could count on a moment of magic but he just doesn't deliver. He belongs on the bench next weekend.
on the 24th October, 2012 at 9:57am

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